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		<title>By: chanson</title>
		<link>http://latterdaymainstreet.com/2009/05/07/its-time-to-play-anti-mormon-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-70028</link>
		<dc:creator>chanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 07:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So true. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So true. <img src='http://latterdaymainstreet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 21:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha! I&#039;d call Twilight &quot;Mormon Porn&quot; ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! I&#8217;d call Twilight &#8220;Mormon Porn&#8221; <img src='http://latterdaymainstreet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: chanson</title>
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		<dc:creator>chanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 17:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Belaja -- Thanks for the details!  Now it all becomes clear.

From Aerin&#039;s description, it didn&#039;t sound particularly anti-Mormon, so I wasn&#039;t sure where this idea came from.

It&#039;s true that organized religion can be used to justify abuse.  One reader sent us an example from her own life, which we posted and discussed &lt;a href=&quot;http://latterdaymainstreet.com/?p=464&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. That&#039;s already threatening enough to the mainstream church, and then if you throw in discussion of MMM and the fact that the Laffertys were believers in the Mormon tradition (even if not mainstream), I can kind of see why LDS Inc. wouldn&#039;t like it.

Still, railing on how anti-Mormon the book is means essentially acknowledging that a book about these extremist offshoots is a book about Mormonism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Belaja &#8212; Thanks for the details!  Now it all becomes clear.</p>
<p>From Aerin&#8217;s description, it didn&#8217;t sound particularly anti-Mormon, so I wasn&#8217;t sure where this idea came from.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true that organized religion can be used to justify abuse.  One reader sent us an example from her own life, which we posted and discussed <a href="http://latterdaymainstreet.com/?p=464" rel="nofollow">here</a>. That&#8217;s already threatening enough to the mainstream church, and then if you throw in discussion of MMM and the fact that the Laffertys were believers in the Mormon tradition (even if not mainstream), I can kind of see why LDS Inc. wouldn&#8217;t like it.</p>
<p>Still, railing on how anti-Mormon the book is means essentially acknowledging that a book about these extremist offshoots is a book about Mormonism.</p>
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		<title>By: belaja</title>
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		<dc:creator>belaja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 17:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The buzz seemed to be that Under the Banner of Heaven was an â€œanti-Mormonâ€ book...&lt;/i&gt;

As I recall, that buzz was started by the church protesting the book before it was released.  The subtitle of the book is &quot;A Story of Violent Faith.&quot;  This is certainly demonstrable in the stories that Krakauer tells--the Laffertys and also Mountain Meadows among other things.  The church chose to read that as, more or less, &quot;A Story of &#039;A&#039; Violent Faith&quot; and complained that mormonism itself was being tarred as being a violent religion.

Krakauer grew up in Oregon and did some book lectures in my small town here at the request of a high school friend of his who now lives here.  His comments were that he was very disappointed that the church made very public and negative comments about his book before it had even been released.  His assertion (and, having read the book, I agree with him) was that he was not writing a screed against mormons (his interest in mormonism initially came from close childhood friends who were mormon) but a more nuanced look at how religion can turn violent, using mormon examples.

The FLDS do not come off well in Krakauer&#039;s book, but I don&#039;t think, really, that mainstream LDS vs. FLDS is at all the point of the book.  My personal opinion about the &quot;anti-mormon&quot; label that was slapped on the book by the church, even after publication, is the fact that the Laffertys were mormon and are identified as such.  Their psychosis was peculiarly based in mormonism in that the dysfunctions of an abusive family were justified in terms of mormonism.  But also, and I think most significantly, Krakauer extensively treats the Mountain Meadows Massacre.  I think his account is pretty complete, accurate, and even-handed.  But the institutional church is obviously very touchy about Mountain Meadows and I think any sort of mention of it gets them up in arms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The buzz seemed to be that Under the Banner of Heaven was an â€œanti-Mormonâ€ book&#8230;</i></p>
<p>As I recall, that buzz was started by the church protesting the book before it was released.  The subtitle of the book is &#8220;A Story of Violent Faith.&#8221;  This is certainly demonstrable in the stories that Krakauer tells&#8211;the Laffertys and also Mountain Meadows among other things.  The church chose to read that as, more or less, &#8220;A Story of &#8216;A&#8217; Violent Faith&#8221; and complained that mormonism itself was being tarred as being a violent religion.</p>
<p>Krakauer grew up in Oregon and did some book lectures in my small town here at the request of a high school friend of his who now lives here.  His comments were that he was very disappointed that the church made very public and negative comments about his book before it had even been released.  His assertion (and, having read the book, I agree with him) was that he was not writing a screed against mormons (his interest in mormonism initially came from close childhood friends who were mormon) but a more nuanced look at how religion can turn violent, using mormon examples.</p>
<p>The FLDS do not come off well in Krakauer&#8217;s book, but I don&#8217;t think, really, that mainstream LDS vs. FLDS is at all the point of the book.  My personal opinion about the &#8220;anti-mormon&#8221; label that was slapped on the book by the church, even after publication, is the fact that the Laffertys were mormon and are identified as such.  Their psychosis was peculiarly based in mormonism in that the dysfunctions of an abusive family were justified in terms of mormonism.  But also, and I think most significantly, Krakauer extensively treats the Mountain Meadows Massacre.  I think his account is pretty complete, accurate, and even-handed.  But the institutional church is obviously very touchy about Mountain Meadows and I think any sort of mention of it gets them up in arms.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe Murdock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoe Murdock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 01:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. Thank you, Robert. A list would be great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. Thank you, Robert. A list would be great.</p>
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		<title>By: chanson</title>
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		<dc:creator>chanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 15:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks!  Looking forward to it! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks!  Looking forward to it! <img src='http://latterdaymainstreet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 14:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll work on putting a list together and then publish it as its own post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll work on putting a list together and then publish it as its own post.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe Murdock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoe Murdock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 23:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t mind getting a copy of that list too, Robert, or from you MoJo or chanson, if you compile it. zoemurdock at yahoo dot come.

I&#039;m enjoying this discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t mind getting a copy of that list too, Robert, or from you MoJo or chanson, if you compile it. zoemurdock at yahoo dot come.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m enjoying this discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: chanson</title>
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		<dc:creator>chanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 04:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert -- So true.  I&#039;ve been trying to promote the works in this space through writing reviews, but I&#039;ve never tried to research or compile a complete list.  My list is just stuff I happened to hear of through reading hundreds of LDS-interest blogs over the years.

But if I &lt;i&gt;were&lt;/i&gt; trying to compile a complete list, you&#039;d be the first person I&#039;d think to ask for directions.  And then perhaps Holly and Joanna Brooks.  I&#039;d start by cribbing from &lt;a href=&quot;http://mormonwomenwriters.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;their list&lt;/a&gt;, even though they appear to be discriminating by gender. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert &#8212; So true.  I&#8217;ve been trying to promote the works in this space through writing reviews, but I&#8217;ve never tried to research or compile a complete list.  My list is just stuff I happened to hear of through reading hundreds of LDS-interest blogs over the years.</p>
<p>But if I <i>were</i> trying to compile a complete list, you&#8217;d be the first person I&#8217;d think to ask for directions.  And then perhaps Holly and Joanna Brooks.  I&#8217;d start by cribbing from <a href="http://mormonwomenwriters.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">their list</a>, even though they appear to be discriminating by gender. <img src='http://latterdaymainstreet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: MoJo</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 22:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, would you be so kind as to send a list to me? moriah at moriahjovan dot com ?

I&#039;m taking notes. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, would you be so kind as to send a list to me? moriah at moriahjovan dot com ?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m taking notes. <img src='http://latterdaymainstreet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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