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		<title>By: Main Street Plaza &#187; Sunday in Outer Blogness: follow-up discussion edition!</title>
		<link>http://latterdaymainstreet.com/2009/06/16/appearance-and-helen-andelin/comment-page-1/#comment-77173</link>
		<dc:creator>Main Street Plaza &#187; Sunday in Outer Blogness: follow-up discussion edition!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 20:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] other discussions, we all remember who Helen Andelin was (if not, review here). Well, it turns out that she also wrote a book called The Fascinating Girl, and the ladies of Blog [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sunday in Outer Blogness: Hard Facts Edition! &#124; Main Street Plaza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunday in Outer Blogness: Hard Facts Edition! &#124; Main Street Plaza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 16:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Mormons-and-gay-marriage in Argentina question. Oh, and the long-awaited men&#8217;s edition of Fascinating Womanhood is finally available! That should provide some interesting reading for the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hellmut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hellmut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 01:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s true.  Women at BYU are exceptionally attractive.  In part, that must be selection bias.

There are so many Mormons who want to get in.  Competition will favor applicants from a privileged background, which happens to include money.  

Lets face it, beauty is not just about genes but also about clothes, style, make up, and hair styling all of which require a little bit of disposable money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true.  Women at BYU are exceptionally attractive.  In part, that must be selection bias.</p>
<p>There are so many Mormons who want to get in.  Competition will favor applicants from a privileged background, which happens to include money.  </p>
<p>Lets face it, beauty is not just about genes but also about clothes, style, make up, and hair styling all of which require a little bit of disposable money.
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		<title>By: Ms. Jack Meyers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms. Jack Meyers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just now caught this thread via trackbacks. 

Two weeks ago, I visited Utah (mostly the Provo-Orem area with a few trips to Salt Lake City) with a group of students from my evangelical seminary. Four women, one man. The women who had never been there before remarked about how pretty all the women around Provo were. 

If you want another anecdotal confirmation that Mormon women put more into their appearances, check out &lt;em&gt;Catch Me If You Can&lt;/em&gt; by Frank Abagnale Jr. (ghost-written by Stan Redding). At one point, his attempts to evade authorities took him to Utah. He states that he began checking out college campuses around Utah and was impressed at how lovely the coeds were. One college had coeds that were so lovely he was tempted to enroll as a student, but decided to become a teacher instead. He faked the necessary college transcripts and spent a spring and summer term there teaching Sociology 101. He said he just read in the textbook a chapter ahead of the class and no one was wiser. 

Though the book didn&#039;t say, in other interviews Abagnale has confirmed that the college in question was BYU. This was a man who had hooked up with women all over the world, and he thought the women in Utah were most attractive and the women at BYU were especially attractive. 

Like you, aerin, I don&#039;t grudge anyone for wanting to look nice. I wear some light make-up, usually style my hair every morning, and prefer floor-length skirts more than anything. But I do wonder if LDS women don&#039;t have a problem with overdoing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just now caught this thread via trackbacks. </p>
<p>Two weeks ago, I visited Utah (mostly the Provo-Orem area with a few trips to Salt Lake City) with a group of students from my evangelical seminary. Four women, one man. The women who had never been there before remarked about how pretty all the women around Provo were. </p>
<p>If you want another anecdotal confirmation that Mormon women put more into their appearances, check out <em>Catch Me If You Can</em> by Frank Abagnale Jr. (ghost-written by Stan Redding). At one point, his attempts to evade authorities took him to Utah. He states that he began checking out college campuses around Utah and was impressed at how lovely the coeds were. One college had coeds that were so lovely he was tempted to enroll as a student, but decided to become a teacher instead. He faked the necessary college transcripts and spent a spring and summer term there teaching Sociology 101. He said he just read in the textbook a chapter ahead of the class and no one was wiser. </p>
<p>Though the book didn&#8217;t say, in other interviews Abagnale has confirmed that the college in question was BYU. This was a man who had hooked up with women all over the world, and he thought the women in Utah were most attractive and the women at BYU were especially attractive. </p>
<p>Like you, aerin, I don&#8217;t grudge anyone for wanting to look nice. I wear some light make-up, usually style my hair every morning, and prefer floor-length skirts more than anything. But I do wonder if LDS women don&#8217;t have a problem with overdoing it.
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		<title>By: BYU in the 1970s &#124; Main Street Plaza</title>
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		<dc:creator>BYU in the 1970s &#124; Main Street Plaza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Fascinating Womanhood&#8221; recently on Feminist Mormon Housewives. I myself own a copy of Fascinating Womanhood. Holly of Self Portrait As has discussed the book before, and even recently had a great article [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sunday in Outer Blogness: It&#8217;s All in Your Head Edition! &#124; Main Street Plaza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunday in Outer Blogness: It&#8217;s All in Your Head Edition! &#124; Main Street Plaza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] theme in Mormonism. (For some related older older discussion from MSP, don&#8217;t forget Fascinating Womanhood, Johnny Lingo, and the fact that my g-g-g-g aunt was one of the wives of that guy who famously [...]</description>
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		<title>By: New Mormon Books &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Review: Fascinating Womanhood</title>
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		<dc:creator>New Mormon Books &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Review: Fascinating Womanhood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Appearance and Helen Andelin by aerin64 Main Street Plaza, June 16th, 2009 . http://latterdaymainstreet.com/?p=614 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Blow in Her Face and She&#8217;ll Follow You Anywhere &#171; Irresistible (Dis)Grace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blow in Her Face and She&#8217;ll Follow You Anywhere &#171; Irresistible (Dis)Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] one was most interesting to me&#8230;it reminded me of Main Street Plaza&#8217;s post about Helen Andelin, the machiavellian twisted anti-feminist speaker, writer and counselor. Indeed, this second ad [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] one was most interesting to me&#8230;it reminded me of Main Street Plaza&#8217;s post about Helen Andelin, the machiavellian twisted anti-feminist speaker, writer and counselor. Indeed, this second ad [...]
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		<title>By: Andrew S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa. Based on what Holly wrote, I feel compelled to read this book, because I&#039;m a little scared of what else Andelin might&#039;ve said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa. Based on what Holly wrote, I feel compelled to read this book, because I&#8217;m a little scared of what else Andelin might&#8217;ve said.
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>by the way, I hadn&#039;t heard that Andelin died, but after aerin mentioned it, I went looking for an obit, which can be found here:

http://www.sltrib.com/News/ci_12548738</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by the way, I hadn&#8217;t heard that Andelin died, but after aerin mentioned it, I went looking for an obit, which can be found here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sltrib.com/News/ci_12548738" rel="nofollow">http://www.sltrib.com/News/ci_12548738</a>
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