Comments on: LDS leaders caught in a lie… (a.k.a. history repeats itself)

By: Sideon

Sideon — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:32:37 +0000

Great post. “Foot in the Door” – indeed. I wish the media would kick some collective butts on this.

Strategy is simple for LDS corp: lie, come clean a little, lie that you told the whole truth, come clean a little more, lie about something non-related to distract from the original lie, then wait for public sentiment to drop from indignation to apathy.

The next media “revelation” will be additional unreported millions in contributions.

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By: Lisa

Lisa — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:12:54 +0000

er, the conclusion that it was hardly “revelation” that is (regarding blacks and the priesthood)

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By: Lisa

Lisa — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:11:51 +0000

*slams head on desk*

yes, yes, yes, you’re right.

so how does one get past the guilt?

I refuse to tell anyone it was “revelation” which changed the blacks and the priesthood ban. Any effort of research will yield that conclusion.

As far as this goes, I’m glad to be alive and aware during this bit of Church history. I can print out the articles myself so that in ten years when the Church explains this away I have evidence to the contrary.

Much like the way everyone likes to dismiss the horribly racist things GAs used to say.

sigh.

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By: chanson

chanson — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 07:49:28 +0000

Does anyone know how to contact the admins of this site?

Just leaving a comment does the trick

I’ve added your site to our blogroll, but perhaps you’d rather be added to our forums list…?

Email me if you’d like us to do a post talking about your site’s particular niche in exmo/postmo/DAMU space: chanson dot exmormon at gmail dot com

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By: Chino Blanco

Chino Blanco — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 05:21:58 +0000

They were counting on history repeating itself and the election being nearly forgotten by this point. It’s been gratifying to see that’s not been the case this time around. I think the poster is absolutely right that there’s much more to come.

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By: Micah

Micah — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 00:50:20 +0000

Hi everyone. I just found this site for the first time today. This issue really makes me sick and hope the full truth continues to be made known so that the deception of the church comes out to it’s own membership and possible leads more of them to rethink their beliefs in this bigoted organization.

One other side note: Does anyone know how to contact the admins of this site? I would like them to add my site, “Life Beyond x-Mormonism” at http://www.exmormononline.net to their list of sites and possibly write an article about it. Thank you.

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By: chanson

chanson — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:40:28 +0000

I no longer say, regarding the 1978 revelation, that it was â€œblacks getting the priesthoodâ€ because doing so obfuscates the fact that pre-1978, LDS people of African descent (both men and women) were denied temple ordinances and thus denied exaltation.

It’s a tangent, yet an important point to remember…

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By: Sabayon

Sabayon — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:31:58 +0000

This reminds me a lot of that part in the Strength of Youth pamphlet where they explain why you really shouldn’t do any intense making out or “petting” (and yes, they still call it that in the new edition which was updated in 2000, approximately thirty years since any actual teenager had used the term and at least 20 since we knew what it meant leading to the awkward “Sister Neilsen, what is petting?” discussion), because once his tongues down your throat, it’s only a matter of time before you’re having unprotected sex in the back of a station wagon, although I’m pretty sure the GAs just said “it leads to greater sin”. *attempts to get back to the point* So perhaps church leadership is merely projecting it’s own foot in the door technique on the youth.

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By: Craig

Craig — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:22:54 +0000

How, oh how do others not see how shady and creepy the church is? How do they not see how manipulative and inhumane its teachings and policies and public statements are?

It boggles the mind that the church thought it was in any way ethical to hide up to 2 million dollars and only declare 2,000. WTF are they thinking? Are they really that corrupt, or are they really that brainwashed to not see how unetical their actions are?

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By: Jana

Jana — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:16:40 +0000

Just a small detail, but seems worth mentioning…I no longer say, regarding the 1978 revelation, that it was “blacks getting the priesthood” because doing so obfuscates the fact that pre-1978, LDS people of African descent (both men and women) were denied temple ordinances and thus denied exaltation. Far better, IMO, to say “when blacks were denied exaltation” or something similar.

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