Comments on: I am Son of Perdition (And So Can You!)

By: Seth R.

Seth R. — Thu, 01 May 2008 06:33:34 +0000

Hey, it’s OK. I haven’t been helping really.

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By: Matt

Matt — Thu, 01 May 2008 05:28:42 +0000

Probably not. I’m feeling rather bad that I keep going off on rants like this. It’s not you, Seth, it’s me. I’m pretty angry about a lot of things and it just comes out. I’ll work on it and thanks for putting up with it.

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By: Seth R.

Seth R. — Thu, 01 May 2008 04:40:48 +0000

Matt, you don’t even know what I’m talking about do you?

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By: Guy Noir Private Eye

Guy Noir Private Eye — Thu, 01 May 2008 03:05:53 +0000

(now, let me be “Kinder/Gentler”)

Mormonism does serve the ‘needs’ of some ppl who thrive on a highly-structured, highly-scripted environment… who might not be served in other religions.
But the contrast between the ‘need for truth’ that Momism advertises to the exterior, AND the internal equivocations/ambiguities-inconsistencies of ‘the faith’ are overwhelming.

All the technicalities & legalisms of Mormonism ….(thinking here)
If they were dynamite, wouldn’t blow anyone’s nose…
paddling around with one oar…
a few bricks short of a load…
elevator doesn’t make it to the Top…

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By: Matt

Matt — Thu, 01 May 2008 03:00:58 +0000

Heh, yeah. Always a good point, Guy. And I’ve said this before but never tire of it … the claim to truth in Mormonism (or of any distinct faith) is in the details. Anybody can teach love but only the church which knows the truth about Satan’s evil (though apparently sympathetic plan) can save you.

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By: Guy Noir Private Eye

Guy Noir Private Eye — Thu, 01 May 2008 02:56:02 +0000

It’s always a Giant Laugh to me when Mormons topics turn to & on tangential, out-of-the-way, off the beaten track details/minutiae.
Love of God & neighbor cover ALL we need to do, but that doesn’t cover the needs of COB/GAs.
taken in Totality, Mormonism is a huge JOKE, even just considering the distractions.

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By: Matt

Matt — Thu, 01 May 2008 02:42:54 +0000

Whatever does it mean that sympathetic makes the idea dangerous? Oh yeah, ’cause he lies. His sympathetic character is a lie. Says who? Oh yeah, the sympathetic character in the blue suit.

Yep, the confidence man knows the game like no other and can even create a straw man in his own image for you to obsess over while he conducts his business. It’s called mis-direction and it works like a charm.

Now if you ask me which one I think is more likely the true snake-oil salesman, I’ll tell you that it’s the guy in the blue suit ’cause I’ve never actually seen this so-called devil. Of course, it took a long time to come to this point of no longer believing in the unseen world. Especially when I was taught of its reality since I was a trusting child.

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By: Seth R.

Seth R. — Thu, 01 May 2008 02:30:01 +0000

I always found Lucifer a very sympathetic character. That’s what makes the idea of him dangerous.

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By: Matt

Matt — Thu, 01 May 2008 02:21:01 +0000

Good ol’ Bruce. God bless him. The church has buried his kind with much of its history. For better or worse.

Jonathan (8), I think, has the point on why most Mormons neither go around pointing the SoP finger nor believe that it’s anything but an extremely rare if not mythical assignment. No good-hearted person wants to believe in a human who is so irredeemable or in a god who is so resolute as to virtually give-up on a soul. Yeah, yeah — “I am eternal therefore my punishment is eternal, but this is not to say that it lasts forever … know what I mean, child?”

We shouldn’t be too surprised either since gods are created by the mind for the consumption of the human mind. What we have today is the rising heresy of un-capped heavenly kingdoms or even the shunting aside entirely of hierarchal afterlife states from daily conversation and cognizance.

What need do we have these days for a god who is so petty and lacking? Seems like progress to me.

Guy Noir, exactly. “Special witness”? Also buried with BRM and his too many to count on hands and toes SoP hoards.

profxm, yep … exact same angel. And that word “evil”? Puff-word indeed. Who are we at war with Mr Preznit? “The evil-doers!” Check.

Hellmut, yeah–I owe that idea about Lucifer to chanson who turned me on to Philip Pullman who turned me on to Milton. Once you think about it, it’s really not hard to have a great deal of sympathy for the old snake and his mission to do right by the big E’s little play-things.

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By: Seth R.

Seth R. — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:38:55 +0000

Exactly. Isn’t that sweet of them profxm.

For the record, I just read McConkie. He calls it a myth that the number of SoPs can be “counted on one hand.”

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