Comments on: the average Peter Priesthood http://latterdaymainstreet.com/2008/04/15/the-average-peter-priesthood/ A Community for Anyone Interested in Mormonism. Wed, 23 May 2012 17:11:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Seth R. http://latterdaymainstreet.com/2008/04/15/the-average-peter-priesthood/comment-page-3/#comment-12823 Seth R. Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:39:27 +0000 http://latterdaymainstreet.com/?p=291#comment-12823 "parents (and family) are an extraordinary exception." Why is that so? Why are they an exception? “parents (and family) are an extraordinary exception.”

Why is that so? Why are they an exception?

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]]> By: Seth R. http://latterdaymainstreet.com/2008/04/15/the-average-peter-priesthood/comment-page-3/#comment-12822 Seth R. Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:38:05 +0000 http://latterdaymainstreet.com/?p=291#comment-12822 "No, if your parents are pieces of crap, they are still your parents. If your Church is a piece of crap, you find a different Church." Not the way I see it Kullervo. This is religion, not a cheesy yoga-style new age therapy session. “No, if your parents are pieces of crap, they are still your parents. If your Church is a piece of crap, you find a different Church.”

Not the way I see it Kullervo.

This is religion, not a cheesy yoga-style new age therapy session.

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]]> By: Kullervo http://latterdaymainstreet.com/2008/04/15/the-average-peter-priesthood/comment-page-2/#comment-12811 Kullervo Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:01:04 +0000 http://latterdaymainstreet.com/?p=291#comment-12811 The analogy doesn't work because parents (and family) are an extraordinary exception. The analogy doesn’t work because parents (and family) are an extraordinary exception.

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]]> By: Kullervo http://latterdaymainstreet.com/2008/04/15/the-average-peter-priesthood/comment-page-2/#comment-12810 Kullervo Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:00:18 +0000 http://latterdaymainstreet.com/?p=291#comment-12810 No, if your parents are pieces of crap, they are still your parents. If your Church is a piece of crap, you find a different Church. No, if your parents are pieces of crap, they are still your parents. If your Church is a piece of crap, you find a different Church.

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]]> By: Guy Noir Private Eye http://latterdaymainstreet.com/2008/04/15/the-average-peter-priesthood/comment-page-2/#comment-12801 Guy Noir Private Eye Sun, 20 Apr 2008 04:04:28 +0000 http://latterdaymainstreet.com/?p=291#comment-12801 (thanks to the internet) most all of the church's BS is more or less known. Thanks to a better informed society, the days of slide & glide answers (really 'replies') to the factual questions will work with a smaller & smaller % of ppl. If I'm right, 'the spirit' isn't a substitute for knowing the (available) truth. Joe set the tone when he lied about the 'saints' not practicing plural marriage, that's been 'the standard' (albeit Very Low) ever since: thru the MMM, thru Hofmann, including the Book of Abraham, Kinderhook plates, horses & 'fine steel' back then... on and on. The GAs / COB crew MUST think that mormons (TBMs) are the most gullible ppl on the face of the Earth. To cap it all off (so far, at least) G.H. tells Larry King 'I don't know that we teach that' then gives the very next conference 'a wink & a nod' saying, well, I (think) know what we teach. NO RESPECT for TRUTH, No Not Any. (thanks to the internet) most all of the church’s BS is more or less known. Thanks to a better informed society, the days of slide & glide answers (really ‘replies’) to the factual questions will work with a smaller & smaller % of ppl.
If I’m right, ‘the spirit’ isn’t a substitute for knowing the (available) truth. Joe set the tone when he lied about the ‘saints’ not practicing plural marriage, that’s been ‘the standard’ (albeit Very Low) ever since: thru the MMM, thru Hofmann, including the Book of Abraham, Kinderhook plates, horses & ‘fine steel’ back then… on and on. The GAs / COB crew MUST think that mormons (TBMs) are the most gullible ppl on the face of the Earth.
To cap it all off (so far, at least) G.H. tells Larry King ‘I don’t know that we teach that’ then gives the very next conference ‘a wink & a nod’ saying, well, I (think) know what we teach.
NO RESPECT for TRUTH, No Not Any.

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]]> By: Mormonzero http://latterdaymainstreet.com/2008/04/15/the-average-peter-priesthood/comment-page-2/#comment-12795 Mormonzero Sun, 20 Apr 2008 00:14:29 +0000 http://latterdaymainstreet.com/?p=291#comment-12795 Yeah...I can agree w/ that. If the inertia is going too fast though they run the risk of getting out flanked. I think FARMS and FAIR both try to help out in this regard but I still see a problem of having to fight on too many fronts. Yeah…I can agree w/ that. If the inertia is going too fast though they run the risk of getting out flanked. I think FARMS and FAIR both try to help out in this regard but I still see a problem of having to fight on too many fronts.

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]]> By: Seth R. http://latterdaymainstreet.com/2008/04/15/the-average-peter-priesthood/comment-page-2/#comment-12794 Seth R. Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:41:43 +0000 http://latterdaymainstreet.com/?p=291#comment-12794 I chalk up a lot of it to built-in organizational inertia. I chalk up a lot of it to built-in organizational inertia.

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]]> By: Mormonzero http://latterdaymainstreet.com/2008/04/15/the-average-peter-priesthood/comment-page-2/#comment-12792 Mormonzero Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:07:33 +0000 http://latterdaymainstreet.com/?p=291#comment-12792 I guess I see the CES being a little behind the times and struggling to keep up. But, who really knows? I guess ppl just gotta do whatever it is they feel is right. I guess I see the CES being a little behind the times and struggling to keep up. But, who really knows? I guess ppl just gotta do whatever it is they feel is right.

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]]> By: Mormonzero http://latterdaymainstreet.com/2008/04/15/the-average-peter-priesthood/comment-page-2/#comment-12791 Mormonzero Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:02:49 +0000 http://latterdaymainstreet.com/?p=291#comment-12791 Seth - Okay, you don't like my analogies and I agree w/ the results of your analogy but don't think it is bullet proof. We don't seem to understand each other's analogies. That is fine. Who really cares? *shrug w/ a smile* Now, how about the question? "My thing is that the church teaches that the HG will testify of those things which are true and good. Why make it more confusing on a young and budding testimony by teaching [the young ppl] things that they (church teachers or leaders) either do not know are true or really do know are untrue, [while presenting it as truth]?" I was trying to present ideas on how the church can maintain and retain more of its members. I only used an analogy to show the mentality of the ppl that are leaving the church not the ones who are staying. It is a good thing that some ppl are able to overcome the let down of Santa, parents not being perfect, or a church not being what they thought it was. My opinion is that we have to go after the one, ten, or hundred sheep that leave (using Christ's analogy, sorry if it is not perfect). I was only trying to present the thoughts of those who leave and present my most humble of opinions as to how the church might more efficiently maintain its membership. I was trying to think out of the box on how to help build up the church, not bring it down. Seth – Okay, you don’t like my analogies and I agree w/ the results of your analogy but don’t think it is bullet proof. We don’t seem to understand each other’s analogies. That is fine. Who really cares? *shrug w/ a smile*

Now, how about the question? “My thing is that the church teaches that the HG will testify of those things which are true and good. Why make it more confusing on a young and budding testimony by teaching [the young ppl] things that they (church teachers or leaders) either do not know are true or really do know are untrue, [while presenting it as truth]?”

I was trying to present ideas on how the church can maintain and retain more of its members. I only used an analogy to show the mentality of the ppl that are leaving the church not the ones who are staying.

It is a good thing that some ppl are able to overcome the let down of Santa, parents not being perfect, or a church not being what they thought it was. My opinion is that we have to go after the one, ten, or hundred sheep that leave (using Christ’s analogy, sorry if it is not perfect). I was only trying to present the thoughts of those who leave and present my most humble of opinions as to how the church might more efficiently maintain its membership. I was trying to think out of the box on how to help build up the church, not bring it down.

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]]> By: Seth R. http://latterdaymainstreet.com/2008/04/15/the-average-peter-priesthood/comment-page-2/#comment-12785 Seth R. Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:06:41 +0000 http://latterdaymainstreet.com/?p=291#comment-12785 No, it's about something you trusted and believed-in letting you down, and how different people deal with that. That's the only point here. Your insistence on "one true parents" for the analogy misses the point of the analogy in the first place. You might as well just tell me my analogy doesn't work because your parents never had a large office building in a small metropolitan city either. No, it’s about something you trusted and believed-in letting you down, and how different people deal with that. That’s the only point here.

Your insistence on “one true parents” for the analogy misses the point of the analogy in the first place.

You might as well just tell me my analogy doesn’t work because your parents never had a large office building in a small metropolitan city either.

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